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Article by Michael Ellenberger On Cloudboom Strike ($280/ 290EUR) Introduction The Cloudboom Strike is road racing and marathon supershoe that, quite unlike prior ON racers which tended to be firm (if responsive) and lower stack, goes all in on cushion (especially at the forefoot where we see an increase of 7.5mm) and bounce. Featuring a drop in midsole that eliminates the sockliner and conventional lasting board, the Strike effectively gets more energy returning cushion stack height than competitors yet remains within World Athletics standards. Pros: Bouncy and light - you don’t need to be a running shoe reviewer to put these on and think wow! Drop in midsole give it more cushion than competitors yet within World Athletics limits Lighter and more stack than Echo 3: 11g lighter and with 1.5mm more heel and 7.5mm more forefoot height Cons: Narrow rear/midfoot platform; slight instability (“midfoot wobble”), narrow fit at the midfoot Most comparable shoes Metaspeed Sky Edge and Sky Paris Nike Vaporfly 3 Adios Pro 3 and 4 Stats Approx. Weight: men's 7.4 oz / 210g Sample Weight: men’s 7.18oz / 203g US8.5 Prior Version Weight: men’s 7.55 oz / 214g (US8.5) Stack Height: men’s 39.5 mm heel / 35.5 mm forefoot ( 4mm drop spec) Prior: 38 mm heel 28mm forefoot 10mm drop Platform Width: 70 mm (contact) 80 (full) heel / 65 mm midfoot / 110 mm forefoot Tester Profile Michael is a patent attorney and graduate of Northwestern University Law School. Prior to law school, he competed collegiately at Washington University in St. Louis (10,000m PR of 30:21). Michael’s PRs include a 67:43 half-marathon (Chicago Half-Marathon) and a 2:21:19 marathon PR at the 2023 Grandma’s Marathon. Michael continues to race on the roads, and is chasing a sub-2:20 marathon and potential OTQ in the future. First Impressions, Fit and Upper Michael: Sam sent me his pair of the Cloudboom Strike (herein, “Strike”) to test, and I won’t lie - I had my head in the sand about these, and knew almost nothing about them. I’ve seen them on the feet of top athletes from watching professional competition, but I didn’t know anything about their availability, let alone their stats - so I was excited to come into this test very nearly blind. And, I was not disappointed. The Strike is bouncy and fun - by far my favorite On racer yet - and I’m excited to talk more about them. First, let’s talk about the upper. This is the not Lightstrike (LS) version, though that review may be forthcoming here soon (sssh!), but I will note - this isn’t the easiest shoe to get into, either. It’s not quite Alphafly v1/v2 levels of difficulty, but allocate a few minutes of time before you need to step out the door. Once they’re on, though, I’m a huge fan of something I’ve actually never seen before on a racing shoe - grippy laces! So grippy, in fact, that I thought Sam had spilled maple syrup on our review pair, but no - the laces are coated, in some places, in a rubberized, tacky material that helps them stay locked. Smart! Now, once they’re on, I can speak to the fit and finish - there’s a slick pattern masking a minimal upper here, with various structural elements sublimated into the material, but no distinct overlays. The colorway I have - red, white, blue and purple; all quite neat - makes it almost look like you’ve bled through the shoe in spots, but that’s not to say it’s a bad look. Fit-wise, I found the midfoot and arch to be narrow (and indeed the platform at the midfoot is narrow at 65 mm), but not debilitatingly so (no blisters or hotspots, but noticeable when starting nearly every run I did), so wide-footed folks may want to look a half-size up, at least. The length was fine in a true-to-size 8.5. Midsole & Platform Michael: Again, I knew nothing about this shoe before testing it, but my blind impressions on my first ten-miler were that the midsole was squishy, bouncy, light, and much more engaging at faster paces than slow. This is not a shoe I particularly like running easy in (similar to my thoughts on the Adios Pro line), because the foam is so squishy (and here, the platform so narrow) that they just feel more unstable than I’m comfortable with. Of course, that isn’t a specific knock here, because the Strike isn’t made for running easy. It’s made for racing - and the Helion HF foam here. is seriously awesome. Even more awesome, On is doing something I haven’t seen from other major brands, as the Helion superfoam insole/midsole that provides additional cushion above the carbon plate end there is 22mm of it above the plate at the forefoot and 14mm above the plate at the heel. By using this approach ON eliminates the conventional lasting board and “cheap” sockliner putting energetic foam directly below the foot all the way down to the plate. The Helion HF foam is removable and while ON has not said it is possible different densities are available for their elites as for example the Cloudstrike LS version’s ride is firmer while the stack height is listed as the same at . Again, though, this shoe is defined by its extreme bounce - one of the best I’ve found - and I cannot stress how enjoyable it is to run once you’re hitting tempo pace or faster, and really engaging the midsole structure here. This is a far cry from the first-generation On Cloudboom of 2020 (our video thoughts here), which was low-platformed, firm, and relied entirely on its rocker geometry. With the Cloudboom Strike, On has leveled up its foam and midsole massively. Outsole Michael: The outsole is thin here, and most reminiscent to me of the Adios Pro line in terms of grip. That is to say - it’s better than you’d think, just by looking at it, but it’s nothing special. I’d be wary of wearing these on particularly technical courses or on wet days if there’s a lot of turning involved, but there’s nothing particularly concerning here. I’m not sure if this should fall under outsole or midsole, but I found these to be really quite squeaky, especially when walking inside (like, from shoe-tying to the front door, or down to my treadmill). Maybe it’s that I’m often running when the rest of the house is asleep, so if you need a silent shoe, the Strike is not for you! Ride, Conclusions and Recommendations Michael: I really don’t have a lot of negative things to say about the Cloudboom Strike - and, given how little I knew about them coming in (usually I read at least a spec sheet, if not the website description for a shoe), I have to say I’m pleasantly surprised. Should I be? On has been making top-tier shoes for a while now, and its athletes are some of (if not then) best marathon racers around - look at Helen Obiri’s recent track record. But even so, I think for the “average runner,” On hasn’t quite put out a true “marathon super shoe”.. until now. As good as the Cloudboom Echo line was, we all had our doubts about its marathon prowess due to their firmer lower stack rides - I think that’s totally gone here. The Strike is so light, so bouncy, and so propulsive that I think runners up and down the results sheet can find enjoyment (and get strong results) in it. I would recommend trying it first and seeing if it matches with your pace and footstrike - again, I had quibbles with them at slower paces - but if they do work for you, you better put in the training for that PR, because the Strike will be capable. A really fun shoe, I’m glad I got to test these. Michael’s Score: 9.7/10 (deduction for the midfoot narrow-ness, and resulting mild instability) 😊😊😊😊😊/5 (a Blast!) 5 Comparisons Index to all RTR reviews: HERE Metaspeed Sky Paris (RTR Review) Metaspeed Edge Paris (RTR Review) Michael: ASICS really brought it this year, both the Sky and the Edge Paris are sensational shoes. And in a head-to-head(-to head, since I’m grouping Sky and Edge together) battle... a really, really close call. The ASICS racers and especially the Sky feel so nimble and light without the instability I noticed on the On. For a course with a lot of turns, for example, I’d strongly side with the ASICS. But most courses aren’t structured that way, and over a marathon… man, I really think this is a personal preference pick. The ASICS has a superior upper and a more comfortable fit. The On feels a little more plastic-y in the upper, but the midsole is so bouncy and exciting, and I do think it provides more energy return than the ASICS (which relies more on its geometry and plate, rather than the foam). Try them all?! Vaporfly 3 (RTR Review) Michael: The Vaporfly is the no-brainer competitor here - two flagship offerings from top brands, and both pitching lightweight, next-generation foams. It’s a close call! I think the Vaporfly is a little sharper (you can feel the plate more) and more aggressive, and I’d prefer it to the Strike in shorter races. At 13.1 or 26.2… it’s really close! I’d probably take the On for a full marathon over the Vaporfly due to its hyper-soft foam. Alphafly 3 (RTR Review) Michael: The Alphafly 3 has become my go-to marathon (and, overall racing) shoe. I absolutely love the never-slow-down geometry - the Vaporfly feels more peppy, yes, but the way you’re just constantly being propelled in the Alphalfy feels, well, like cheating! It’s a great shoe for my foot and strike. But, that’s not to say this is an easy choice - I actually prefer the slightly-softer portfolio on the On here, and think it manages to give you that forward propulsion without feeling so… mechanical? I have to think your legs will come away feeling better after a hard effort in the On than in the Alpha (in fact, in my case this was exactly true), though there’s a little less edge to the Cloudboom Strike… it’s a close call, much closer than I had expected. I think I prefer the Alphafly, (my marathon times in the low 2:20’s) but really - you can’t go wrong. Two deluxe shoes. Adidas Adios Pro 3 (RTR Review) Michael: The Adios Pro 3 is so good (actually, let me stop myself for a second and just acknowledge that there are a lot of excellent racers out there from nearly ever major brand, and besides the monetary cost to that, it really is a good thing, eh?) - and that makes this, too, a close call. But, after evaluating and running both, I actually think the On excels because it’s so similar to the Adidas, with improvements in nearly all ways. The On smooths out a somewhat erratic (if fast!) Adios Pro ride, making it more manageable and more efficient. Neither upper is perfect, but the On has a better fit and the laces add measurable value to the shoe. You absolutely can’t go wrong with the AP3 - but I think I’m taking the Strike! Sam's Cloudboom Strike Initial Video Review Comments and Questions Welcome Below! 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Article by Jeremy Marie and Derek Li Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3 (230€/230$) Pros: Excellent cushion to weight ratio, huge weight drop vs v2: Jeremy Comfortable, airy yet supportive upper: Jeremy/Derek Springy foam, with lots of rebound: Jeremy/Derek Works for a variety of paces: Jeremy/Derek Quite natural feeling, not overly directed: Jeremy/Derek Still has of the best outsole grips and durability:Jeremy/Derek Lower price point than competition:Jeremy/Derek Cons: slight lack of stability at the heel: Jeremy Most comparable shoes Salomon SLab Phantasm 2 Nike Vaporfly Next% 2 Hoka Rocket X 2 Stats Spec Weight: men's 6.84oz / 194g (US9/EU42) Sample Weight: men’s 7.65oz / 217g US10.5/EU44 Prior Version Weight: 9.91 oz / 281g (US10.5/EU44) Stack Height: men’s 40 mm heel / 32 mm forefoot ( 8mm drop) Prior Version Stack Height: 38 mm heel / 30 mm forefoot ( 8mm drop) Platform Width: 104 forefoot /52 midfoot /79 heel Measurements won’t be as accurate here as the main external edge is exposed midsole, and the edges are curved at the heel and midfoot. Forefoot number is fine. Available now at our partner Top4 Running Europe HERE (some colors on sale) First Impressions, Fit and Upper Jeremy: Clearly the first impression you get of the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 in hand is how light the shoe is, despite the massive slab of foam. And indeed PUMA managed to shave an astonishing 2.3oz/67g per shoe in my US 10.5 by using a new aliphatic TPU,while gaining 4 mm of stack front and rear, and sticking to the same 8mm drop. The UltraWeave upper, despite feeling a bit rough to the touch, is supple and pliable, and is actually softer on the inside. This mono-mesh upper is slightly stretchy in all-directions, allowing for a nice foot-conforming fit. Having used them on some hot runs, I can attest that it’s also breathable and airy. PUMA sticks to its PWRTAPE overlays around the midfoot, both on the medial and internal side, adding some retention to this area. Fit around the midfoot feels almost relaxed at first, which is quite unexpected for the high performance shoe the DNE3 is. I’ve found it to be very accommodating without any foothold issue. It promises a lot of comfort for longer runs. The non-gusseted tongue is very moderately padded but does a perfect job of annihilating any pressure from the slightly stretchy laces. Despite its « free » no gusset strap design, it stays perfectly in place thanks to the clever design touch PUMA uses. Instead of using a single « lace hole » in the middle, there are two on the sides of the tongue, balancing lace tension. A simple and effective design. The collar is just slightly padded, with kind of a narrow « pillow » at its top which falls just under the ankle. The padding is ever so slightly thicker at the heel, and gain some height measuring a bit over 1cm. There’s no heel counter per se, the lower parts being just a tad more rigid - but still stays flexible. This whole rear is doubled with a suede-like fabric, which helps a bit in heel retention. This a very curated design and it worked perfectly for my foot shape: I did not encounter any heel slippage, even during hill repeats. There are also two PWRTAPE inlays here, starting from the base of the foot and going backwards towards the base of the malleolus, structuring the rear part of the shoe. This whole construction gives a feeling of comfort that would feel at home in a training shoe, the toebox topping this feeling with adequate room for toe splay. A note on sizes: PUMA shoes sizing does not translate as usual between US and EU sizing: stick to your US size in other brands for Puma and it’ll be OK (it translates to ½ size less in EU) Derek: I think the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3s got a lot of hype and anticipation after the US marathon Olympic trials when a number of their Puma-sponsored female marathoners had breakthrough races, going 1 and 3 in the race and beat out a lot of the pre-race favorites. We have had to wait a really long time to try these shoes! When they finally became available to the public I went out and ordered a pair from Puma HK (as the Singapore distributor hadn’t brought them in yet) and I have to say the hype is well deserved. I put in a lot of miles in the Deviate Nitro Elite 1 and the Fast-R 1 and both had their strengths and weaknesses. For me, the DNE1’s biggest issue was bottoming out for my running style (forefoot lateral landing) and while the foam was plenty energetic, I felt like they needed to bring the up stack more. I gave DNE2 a miss as it seemed like largely an upper update with no meaningful changes to the stack numbers. Enter the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 and it is a completely different beast. Jeremy has already gone into great detail with the upper description so I won’t rehash that. I’ll just say that the fit is marginally on the longer side now as compared to DNE1 which ran slightly short, and Fast-R1 which was true to size for me. Incidentally, I also tried Fast-R2 in the store and it also ran marginally long. If you have Fast-R2, I would say the fit is about the same with the DNE3. As is, I think the DNE3 works splendidly in terms of fit and lockdown with medium thickness socks. Zero chance of black toes in a marathon race, but I do have a little over a thumb’s space in front of the toes. I cannot emphasize enough how good the lockdown is in this shoe. It’s easily among the top 3 best fitting race shoes I’ve ever tried, the other two being ASICS Metaspeed Sky OG and the Nike Alphafly 1. It is easy to dial in the lace tension and get great lockdown without having to overly tighten the laces and with zero heel movement. I love the very conventional upper construct and heel design. It just shows you don’t need to be overly clever with the upper to get an effective and light upper. Overall shoe volume is very diplomatic as well, with not a lot of arch structure at midfoot, so the shoe should work well for a wide variety of foot shapes. At the time of this writing, I have already gone ahead and bought another pair of these shoes in a half size down to see if I can get a lighter set-up with thin race socks for that leave no-stone-unturned A race. It doesn’t hurt that this second pair comes in an all-white colorway (I’ve only ever seen the white on the Puma HK website but I am sure a wider release is imminent). Midsole & Platform Jeremy: PUMA has changed the NItro Elite foam and we now have a new aliphatic TPU midsole foam, promising more energy return than the previous version, as well as leading to big weight savings despite adding 4mm of foam height. Sandwiched inside is the PWRPLATE carbon plate, bottom loaded. The advantage of this lower-positioned plate is that the foot does not feel its rigidity, as it sinks into the generous volume of foam before loading the plate, similar in positioning to the Vaporfly Next % and ASICS Metaspeed Edge. Interestingly, the lower layer of foam feels a bit firmer, which is especially noticed at the forefoot. I think this firmer foam participates in the big propulsive feeling that the DNE3 gives during the stride. The geometry does not have an exaggerated rocker, with just a slight upward curve at the toes level. This contributes to the quite natural feeling the shoe has in the super shoes realm. PUMA also promises a durability gain with this foam, which is difficult to assess after 60km. I can only attest that it does not need any break-in period, and that the foam does not show any wrinkles which can be seen early in some PEBA based midsoles. Derek: There is a lot of cushioning and energy in this midsole set-up. That’s it in a nutshell. Now there are a whole bunch of race shoes sitting at the 40mm/32mm stack level right now, so almost everyone is right up against that limit. Off the top of my head, the Nike Vaporfly 3, Unpause Halley Light, and 361deg Future Fast all sit at this stack height (by my personal measurements). The Adidas Adios Pro 3 sits at 39.5/31.5 if memory serves correctly, and I can tell you none of them feel similar to one another, except maybe Unpause Halley Light feeling quite close to VF3. The Puma DNE3 midsole, especially at the forefoot when you are driving through, feels the softest and more energetic of the bunch, and there is definitely no bottoming out. The sandwiched carbon plate does a very good job at creating that rocker effect through toe-off, but at the same time, the plate is not overly rigid and feels a bit more flexible than say the plate in the VF3. This makes the shoe very versatile and you can even really feel comfortable using it at recovery paces between workouts. Over the long run, the vibration dampening is the best among the shoes with a measured 40mm heel stack, and you can really tell the difference at the 20 mile mark, against say a VF3 or an Adios Pro 3. Now, the softness does come with some trade-offs, and I will say the medial-lateral stability of the shoe is on the lower side, especially at forefoot where there is more foam between your foot and the plate. At the heel, things are a bit better as the plate sits closer to the foot so there is a bit more stability there. Additionally, there are no raised midsole sidewalls or wide platform width design to add any stability. I actually like this as it allows the foot to land and roll through in a much more natural way. I think if you need a little more guidance, the Fast-R2 would be a better option for you as the plate feels a lot stiffer and the heel is a bit firmer in that shoe. Outsole Jeremy: When you have such a tremendous compound as the PUMA Grip in hand (on foot), you just stick to it and put it everywhere you can. We’ve already sung the wonders of this rubber, and it still applies in the DNE3. Its implementation here shows the preferred foot strike the shoe is designed for: two little patches under the heel area, and a large covering of the front third, with a longitudinal central cutout to help flexibility and reduce weight. It’s designed with wavy thin lateral grooves which acts both for flexibility and water evacuation on wet asphalt. No need to detail much about the performance of this outsole, it has shown plenty of durability in the past, and looks like new after 60km, while still offering best in class grip. Derek: I have about 100km in my DNE3s and while there has been some wear off the forefoot rubber, there is still plenty of coverage there, so outsole durability seems to be good. You can see that the black Puma logo upfront is mostly gone on my pair. Puma outsoles are also notoriously good in terms of grip and it has not disappointed in the DNE3. You are not going to have problems with wet roads in this shoe. Incidentally, my last long run in the shoes was 22 miles with 13 miles on crushed gravel, and while there is some brown staining on the exposed midsoles of the shoes, there is no sign of damage to the skin of the midsole; so I am quite impressed with the compound. A similar run done in the AF3 several weeks back yielded some minor abrasions to the exposed ZoomX underneath. Ride, Conclusions and Recommendations Jeremy: The ride of the DNE3 is one of the most energetic I’ve encountered, yet while still feeling very natural along the stride. It almost feels traditional actually, when you rule out the big energetic propulsion that the foam and plate combination give the shoe. The very subtle rocker geometry and the not overly bouncy or soft foam is clearly at play in this feeling. Let’s get straight to the point here: the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is, for me, one of the best super shoe on the market right now. The fit is comfortable yet secure, with a very gentle foot hold in an accommodating upper and wth a highly pronounced energy return of the foam. By « best » I also mean one that can accommodate a variety of runners, as the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is not overly directive and works very well both in short bursts, reps as well as for tempo runs. Despite the slightest feeling of instability at the heel, it still bests most of the super shoes on the stability front. Add also in best in class grip, apparent durability and a lower price point as the competition, and we clearly got a winner with the Deviate Nitro Elite 3. Jeremy’s Score: 9.68 / 10 Ride (50%): 9.8 Fit (30%): 9.5 Value (15%): 9.7 Style (5%):9.5 Smiles Fun Score! 😊😊😊😊😊 Derek: I agree with Jeremy here. The ride is very natural and energetic, reminding me a lot of those first miles in the Nike VF4% OG Ice Blue, but even more cushioned and springy. Even though the shoe has an 8mm drop, I think mid-forefoot strikers will still appreciate the energetic platform the forefoot provides, and it feels noticeably more cushioned than what you would expect from a 32mm forefoot stack. The foam is soft and deforms very nicely when you land in a supinated manner to roll your foot through to the forefoot. The plate is not overly stiff, and works well over a wide range of paces, making a good option for slower runners as well. The main knock might be in terms of stability. The soft foam makes the shoe a relatively less stable shoe than say Fast R2. I've done a bunch of workouts in the shoe from 10k-FM pace and long runs up to 22 miles s, and they have performed really well, in terms of cushioning and performance assistance. I think the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is easily the best super shoe of the year for me. Derek’s Score: 9.75 / 10 Ride (50%): 9.6 Fit (30%): 10 Value (15%): 10 Style (5%):9 Some people might want to size down by half a size I personally would have preferred a 6mm drop for the shoe, but that’s really the only blemish on the shoe Smiles Fun Score! 😊😊😊😊😊 9 Comparisons Index to all RTR reviews: HERE Nike Vaporfly Next% 2 Jeremy: Maybe the closest feeling shoe I have, as I have the same « natural » feeling running in the VF2 despite this being achieved in a different way. The DNE3 feels more traditional, but with maybe more spring at toe off. It’s also more comfortable and stable than the VF2. It also feels more cushioned, and maybe more suited to longer efforts. The VF2 still has a special place for me, as I still find it to be the most efficient super shoe for running fast for me, but that might just be a consequence of the mileage I put in them vs the DNE3 so far.. Nike Vaporfly 3 RTR Review Derek: Both shoes fit about the same, in that both are marginally long and in a race situation, I would ideally size down by half a size for both shoes. The Puma fits me better in terms of getting the heel to lock down. The Puma also feels more plush and springy underfoot, and I seem to get better oomph off the ground in the forefoot with it as well. Overall, I find the Puma to be a more enjoyable and efficient shoe. Salomon S-Lab Phantasm 2 RTR Review Jeremy: I said in the conclusion that the DNE3 is amongst the best super shoes right now…and the Phantasm 2 sits in the same place. I still need to put one more miles on it, but the first runs were excellent: comfort, stability, energy return…with a feeling of the foam close to the A-TPU Nitro Elite foam. The Contagrip matches the PumaGrip wonders and, from past experiences, is at least as durable. I find the Salomon more suited to longer runs, whereas the Puma takes the win for shorter efforts. On Cloudboom Echo3 RTR Review Jeremy: The CBE3 might not be the latest On racing shoe, but it still sits in a niche for shorter efforts, let’s say up to half marathon, where its relative firmness brings a different flavor than most other super shoes. The consequence is that it might feel a bit too firm for some, and it’s less versatile than the DNE3. It’s also pricier, less durable…and feels a bit more dated now. Derek: I wear US9.5 in the Cloudboom Echo 3 and would race in US9 in the DNE3. There is no question the CBE3 is one of the most aggressively rockered racers out there, and if you like a firmer more snappy ride, it’s a great racer with great mechanical assistance. However, I think for most people, a softer, more forgiving shoe like the Puma DNE3 would be the better option. ASICS Metaspeed Edge Paris (RTR Review) Derek: I wear US9.5 in the Edge Paris and would race in US9 in the DNE3. The Edge Paris is definitely more rockered but firmer underfoot compared to the DNE3. I think the Puma is more dynamic and cushioned, but perhaps a slightly slower feeling shoe. Puma seems to have better outsole performance. Fit-wise, the ASICS upper volume is a little too high for me and doesn’t seem to lock down the foot as well as the Puma. Overall, I think it’s quite close. I probably would go for the ASICS for shorter races and the Puma for longer races. Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 (RTR Review) Derek: I wear US9.5 in the EP4 and would race in US9 in the DNE3. The EP4 geometry doesn’t work so well for me. The whole shoe feels kind of overly flat, with an overly soft heel, making it difficult to transition quickly in this shoe. Just on this alone, the Puma is a better option for me across all distances. Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro 2 (RTR Review) Derek: I wear US9.5 in the WRP2 and would race in US9 in the DNE3. Do note that the WRP2 fits slightly longer than v1. I find the rocker of the WRP2 to be more effective, but it does seem to be more exacting in needing good biomechanics to correctly engage the shoe at all times. Once your form breaks down, the shoe doesn’t seem to perform as well and can even feel a bit harsh. In this respect, the DNE3 is a better overall shoe for most people for the marathon. I think if I were in very good PB shape, I would probably go for the WRP2 as a marathon shoe. But if I think I might tire in the late stages of the race, then the Puma is the safer option. Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 1 (RTR Review) Derek: I wear US9.5 in DNE1 and would race DNE3 in US9.0. The DNE3 is a higher volume shoe and fits more comfortably for longer runs and races, and more importantly, the underfoot cushioning is a lot better, with less ground feel and more underfoot bounce. The rocker also feels more prominent than before. Overall the DNE3 is a huge improvement. Puma Fast R 1 (RTR Review) Derek: I wear US9.5 in Fast R1 and would race DNE3 in US9.0. The Fast R1 is a more aggressive shoe with a lower to the ground feel. My main gripe was with the harshness of the heel in that shoe. The forefoot outsole also wore down quite quickly over 200ish KM. DNE3 seems to have a more durable outsole, and is a lot more forgiving and comfortable to wear, even though the rocker is not as aggressive. Overall I like the DNE3 better. Adidas Adios Pro 3 (RTR Review) Derek: I would size down by half a size for both Adios Pro 3 and the Deviate Nitro Elite 3. The DNE3 is significantly softer and has a more dynamic ride. Crucially, the position of the rocker sits closer to midfoot in the DNE3 and this makes the shoe a lot easier to roll through. The Puma outsole is also going to be more durable than what’s on the AP3. I think unless you need a more stable ride, there’s really no reason to go with Adios Pro 3 over the DNE3 Tester Profiles Jeremy MARIE, French, 44y/o. Running since 2013 and quickly transitioned to trails, focused on ultras since 2015 : TDS, Maxi-Race, “100 miles du Sud”, 90 kms du Mt Blanc, GRP 120 kms, Some shorter more mellow races (Saintelyon 45 kms, Ecotrail Paris 45 kms…) with always in the mix road and flat running, but not many road races. Also active cyclist and 70.3 Ironman. Recovery/easy runs ~4’45/km - 4’30/km. He has an un-official marathon PR of 2h54 (solo) and 10K PR of 36’25. He does few timed road races. Derek is in his 40’s and trains 70-80 miles per week at 7 to 8 minute pace in mostly tropical conditions in Singapore. He has a 2:39 marathon PR from the 2022 Zurich Marathon. Shopping at our partner Top4 Running for the Elite 3 is much appreciated and helps support RoadTrailRun TOP4RUNNING EUROPE Men's & Women's SHOP HERE Use RTR code RTRTOP4 for 5% off all products, even sale products Samples were provided at no charge for review purposes. 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